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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 05:03:18
From: Space Digest maintainer <digests@isu.isunet.edu>
Reply-To: Space-request@isu.isunet.edu
Subject: Space Digest V15 #113
To: Space Digest Readers
Precedence: bulk
Space Digest Sat, 15 Aug 92 Volume 15 : Issue 113
Today's Topics:
Arthur C. Clarke interview
Beanstalks in Nevada Sky (was Re: Tethers)
Early Warning of missiles and meteors
Energya and Freedom and Soyuz ACRV and...
Following up on SPS argument...
Global Positioning System (GPS)
He3 Power Source
Request: Sex in Space
SPS fouling astronomy
Two-Line Orbital Element Sets, Part 1
Want to scan Moon Map?(Re: Russian Cosmonaut Pics)
Weak interactions...
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Date: 13 Aug 92 14:38:26 GMT
From: Tom O'Reilly <oreilly@olivia.la.asu.edu>
Subject: Arthur C. Clarke interview
Newsgroups: sci.space
Apparently Arthur C. Clarke was interviewed on NPR last week. I didn't
catch it - anybody have a synopsis?
Tom O'Reilly
Mars Observer Thermal Emission Spectrometer
Department of Geology
Arizona State University
------------------------------
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:30:24 GMT
From: Henry Spencer <henry@zoo.toronto.edu>
Subject: Beanstalks in Nevada Sky (was Re: Tethers)
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <16eqs1INNb5k@early-bird.think.com> moravec@Think.COM (Hans Moravec) writes:
>The latest and greatest version of carbon fiber is Buckytubes!
>Like graphite but rolled up forming a teeny, tiny soda straw.
>No loose edges or ends (the ends are capped with a half Buckyball).
Last I heard, some doubts had been raised about their existence: looked
at with an STM, they appear to be just rows of buckyballs, not tubular
structures at all. Still interesting, but unlikely to be very strong.
--
There is nothing wrong with making | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
mistakes, but... make *new* ones. -D.Sim| henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
------------------------------
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:33:04 GMT
From: Michael Judson <judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu>
Subject: Early Warning of missiles and meteors
Newsgroups: sci.space
A friend and I were having a discussion as to whether or not the early
warning system used in detecting missiles can actually detect meteors
that pass through the Earth's atmosphere.
This was brought up because of the tidal waves that occurred in Florida
which meteorologists theorized may have been a meteor. My friend asked
why didn't early warning pcik it up, and I argued that early warning
could not pick it up. If it could, then why did the meteorologist have
to theorize about the meteor and instead not have solid proof from SAC?
--
I was contemplating Socrates' immortal words: "I drank what?"
judson@watserv.ucr.edu
------------------------------
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:40:28 GMT
From: "Allen W. Sherzer" <aws@iti.org>
Subject: Energya and Freedom and Soyuz ACRV and...
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <1992Aug14.130334.8888@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>> Ok, we now have 4 potential solutions (HL-20, Soyuz, 2xPLS above);
>>Soyuz is $65 million per flight and $500 million to adapt (massively
>This is a questionable number. CIS is now quoting commercial launches
>on Proton for $65 million,
KB Salut recently bid 35 million to launch an Immarsat-3 satellite.
>not including payload, and the US and others
>are complaining that that is a below cost figure and unfair trading
>practice. The US wants them to charge $85 million like Arianne.
GD and Arianne bit $60 to $65 million for the same launch. $85 million
is a very steep price; list price of an Atlas is only $72 million.
>> As you've said, neither PLS nor HL-20 is going to Phase B anytime
>>soon, though it's easy to point out that if they don't, we won't have
>>a ACRV for PMC Freedom...
>But we will have long duration Shuttles by the time of PMC. So the
>Shuttle can be crew transport, resupply, material return, and ACRV
In other words, we will simply cut Shuttle utilization in half
thereby doubling the cost.
>until we get something better.
With all the money your wasting you will never get anything better.
somebody a while back asked why we don't have a lunar base yet. I
submit the answer lies in this post.
Allen
--
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Allen W. Sherzer | "If they can put a man on the Moon, why can't they |
| aws@iti.org | put a man on the Moon?" |
+----------------------252 DAYS TO FIRST FLIGHT OF DCX----------------------+
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:24:26 -0500
From: pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering)
Subject: Following up on SPS argument...
I'm sorry, I've lost the various levels of attribution.
>|> Consider oil, for example, where the reserves in many places are
>|> well into the second, and working on the third level of extraction.
>|> (For oil, level 1 is when it comes out the ground for you. Level 2
>|> is when you must pump it. Level 3 is when you have to force water or
>|> mud down, to get any oil up.)
>But, in fact, it is getting cheaper to produce oil, because
>of improved reservoir modeling, horizontal drilling, and so on.
>In any case, the cost of oil is dominated by how much OPEC thinks
>it can charge without stimulating alternatives. The cost of
>production in the Saudi Arabia is less than $3/barrel.
\So the price of oil depends not just on the ease of getting it, but also
/the market, labor schemes, etc. Imagine how cheap shuttle launches would
\be if the workers were paid comparably to Arabian oil workers. And $3.00
/per barrel still doesn't include x-port, refining, pollution (or pollution
\control), etc. Sure, we'll continue designing and modelling, and finding
/cheaper ways to do it. But oil is fundamentally limited. It will become
\permanantly more expensive, possibly in our life-times.
I think you are misinformed. Low pay isn't the difference between
oil production in Saudi Arabia and here. In Saudi Arabia, it still
flows out of the ground, from a couple thousand feet underground.
No pumping needed.
And the Saudis have cash reserves, and would use them to sell the oil
at a loss until we reach the point where so much of our drilling
equipment is sold overseas (and it's going, fast) that it would take
us years and years to get production back up again in this country
(while at the same time some of the less scrupulous OPEC countries
would be nationalizing oil drilling equipment owned by American
companies drilling in their country).
American oil producers were required by law during the last oil
crisis to undersell the foreign producers. This helped get rid
of the last oil crisis, and the cash reserves of domestic
producers.
Most of those domestic producers no longer exist. No drilling is
going on here.
You people obviously don't want local production to be able to
save you from the next oil crisis, since in the last 15 years
you've not only let the local oil industry go to hell in a
handbasket (_during_ a time period where saving it would have
cut the cost of the S & L Bailout by over 50 % , since it was
heavily fueled by collapsing real estate prices in the oil
patch) but have also not built one new power plant.
[Flame^2 mode on]:
What in the name of God Above do you plan to do next time?
Start selling daughters?
[Flame^2 mode off]
\I can see a pretty good argument against SPS, along the lines of "We are
/not yet at the point where SPS would pay high, and, therefore, we'll never
\be able to finance the start-up project". But I get the feeling that
/this approach is not what I've seen here. It seems more along the lines
\of "SPS will never be worth it." Maybe I'm mis-interpreting, but that's
/what I see.
SPS, like all alternative energy research in this country, and this
country's oil industry, and nuclear industry, is dying of neglect
and artificially low energy from a foreign country very much opposed
to our way of life and existance as a free nation. All the blather
about the takeover by "Japan Inc." is just a smokescreen, and also
prob. meant to keep Japan and the US antagonistic towards each other.
And the retard out-of-work car workers, Lee Iaccocca (or however it's
spelled), and a million half-rate politicians and would be half-
rate politicians (Ross Perot) eat it all up.
Just think: how else do you keep the two most technologically adroit
nations on the planet from teaming up and possibly inventing something
else that might make all that goddamn tar Allah gave you to buy the
infidels with totally worthless?
If Japan has all the money, why do we always here about the Japanese
Economic Menace? Perhaps this is something thought up by a real
economic menace, to distract people?
Phil Fraering pgf@srl0x.cacs.usl.edu where the x is a number from 1-5.
Phone: 318/365-5418
SnailMail: 2408 Blue Haven Dr., New Iberia, La. 70560
"Sweet dreams and fine machines in pieces on the ground" - James Taylor
Neato scorchomatic sci.space quote of the week: "No, Fred's article
was meant to introduce some reality into your thick headed but
narrow-minded skull. _This_ is a flame." - Nick Szabo
--
Phil Fraering pgf@srl0x.cacs.usl.edu where the x is a number from 1-5.
Phone: 318/365-5418
SnailMail: 2408 Blue Haven Dr., New Iberia, La. 70560
"Sweet dreams and fine machines in pieces on the ground" - James Taylor
Neato scorchomatic sci.space quote of the week: "No, Fred's article
was meant to introduce some reality into your thick headed but
narrow-minded skull. _This_ is a flame." - Nick Szabo
------------------------------
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:57:33 GMT
From: Jeff Bytof <rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Global Positioning System (GPS)
Newsgroups: sci.space
I am in need of technical reports describing the Global Positioning
System (GPS). Are they obtainable from NASA or DOD?
------------------------------
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:50:11 GMT
From: Scott Hannahs <sth@slipknot.mit.edu>
Subject: He3 Power Source
Newsgroups: sci.space
roberts@phoenix.ocf.llnl.gov (Don Roberts) writes:
>eatlv@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (thomas.vandoren) writes:
>>About 2 weeks ago I saw a series of 5 minute modern videos of great interest.
>>One of them was about a proposal to use Helium3 mined from the moon as a power
>>source on Earth. [...]
>>
>>Does anyone have more info, opinions on that proposal? [...]
>>
>>How hypothetical is this and is it practical?
>>
>>Lee
>At present it's *very* hypothetical, and *highly* impractical. The way to
>use He3 for power generation is via nuclear fusion [1]:
Useful discussion on fusion deleted (it does lower the production of
nasty neutrons)
>I think the lunar "environment" is safe from marauding bands of
>strip-miners. For the time being...
>Reference:
> Dr. Donald W. Roberts
Any reason the moon should be richer in 3He than the earth? The natural
abundance of 3He is about 7ppm in regular 4He which is from trapped
alpha decay in natural gas wells. I think the energy cost of gettting
to the moon, mining the 3He and bringing it back would be more than you
can get out of the 3He. The major (only) commercial source of 3He (~$90
US / liter STP federal research grant rates) is from nuclear weapons
manufacture. If you have some tritium around all you have to do is sit
on your thumbs and bingo 3He. Now that the arms race is over all the
low temp physicists should start worrying about the availability of 3He.
For awhile as warheads are deactivated things will be ok, but
eventually.... No more research below 1K. We do recycle the stuff but
nothing is 100% effecient.
Scott Hannahs, F. Bitter National Magnet Lab, sth@slipknot.mit.edu
------------------------------
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:05:34 GMT
From: Richard Ottolini <stgprao@xing.unocal.com>
Subject: Request: Sex in Space
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <1992Aug12.190748.14718@ultb.isc.rit.edu> cej2421@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.E. Johnson ) writes:
>There was an article posted a few years ago dealing with experiments
>on sex in space. If anyone has a copy of this, please forward it to
>my address.
The article may have been wishful thinking.
However, the next shuttle mission has a married couple on it ...
------------------------------
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:41:49 GMT
From: "Frederick A. Ringwald" <Frederick.A.Ringwald@dartmouth.edu>
Subject: SPS fouling astronomy
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <1992Aug13.175839.24133@cfa.harvard.edu>
willner@cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) writes:
> Seriously, if we are building enough space infrastructure for SPS's,
> it should be easy for professional astronomers to have access to
> space instruments.
>
Uh-oh. Looks like your assumptions (albedo = 30%, number of satellites
> 1000) are more convincing. That means the Milky Way is toast.
But, most of this thread is pointing in the direction that SPS is a
very advanced project, and maybe has to be. So, in the meantime, any
number of things can happen.
> > Also, the objection that
> > "there'd be nowhere on Earth you could get away from the handiwork of
> > humans - no remaining true wilderness" isn't really true: try Alaska
>
> I give up. The lattitude is only 60 to 70 degrees or so, and there
> are plenty of flat places where the horizon is visible. And the
> aurora is seldom bright enough to obliterate the bright planets.
> Maybe you were there during a _really_ bright display. :-)
Trees could block objects near the horizon, but come to think of it,
there is nowhere *with a clear horizon* you could get away from the
Con-Ed-stellation. Even at the poles, you could see it, because of
atmospheric refraction. And I never saw the aurora from Alaska; I saw
it from Arizona. (The famous 1989 March display: no kidding!)
------------------------------
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:07:51 GMT
From: TS Kelso <tkelso@afit.af.mil>
Subject: Two-Line Orbital Element Sets, Part 1
Newsgroups: sci.space
The most current orbital elements from the NORAD two-line element sets are
carried on the Celestial BBS, (513) 427-0674, and are updated daily (when
possible). Documentation and tracking software are also available on this
system. The Celestial BBS may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, 2400,
4800, or 9600 bps using 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity.
Element sets (also updated daily) and some documentation and software are
available via anonymous ftp from archive.afit.af.mil (129.92.1.66) in the
directory pub/space.
As a service to the satellite user community, the most current of these
elements are uploaded weekly to sci.space.news and rec.radio.amateur.misc.
This week's elements are provided below.
- Current Two-Line Element Sets #037a -
Alouette 1
1 00424U 62B-A 1 92224.17342024 .00000047 00000-0 51448-4 0 5872
2 00424 80.4635 230.9395 0024845 52.5872 307.7533 13.67717596490127
ATS 3
1 03029U 67111 A 92216.46365082 -.00000078 00000-0 99999-4 0 8000
2 03029 14.1085 14.1892 0012994 240.7345 118.9829 1.00271894 90593
Cosmos 398
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2 04966 51.4773 180.5042 1630158 16.0665 348.6220 12.48554144684227
Starlette
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2 07646 49.8250 287.4343 0205849 274.7999 82.9417 13.82177486884827
LAGEOS
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2 08820 109.8468 265.2717 0043473 69.0752 291.4767 6.38664399124216
ETS-2
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2 09852 10.8042 50.2349 0005583 264.5924 95.3382 1.00110990 3382
GOES 2
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2 10061 9.8534 54.0762 0003144 158.2319 201.8269 0.99993173 349
IUE
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2 10637 33.5331 105.9877 1339095 15.5725 348.2376 1.00221537 6076
GPS-0001
1 10684U 78020 A 92221.69526976 -.00000002 00000-0 99999-4 0 8904
2 10684 64.1995 65.6952 0067352 162.4650 197.9774 1.98069781 91514
GPS-0002
1 10893U 78 47 A 92219.28630978 -.00000016 00000-0 99999-4 0 6492
2 10893 63.9262 306.0906 0202799 13.7371 346.8520 2.01627408104368
GOES 3
1 10953U 78062 A 92224.75452027 .00000101 00000-0 99999-4 0 4718
2 10953 8.7872 56.6847 0004472 84.5472 275.6332 1.00276279 4966
SeaSat 1
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2 10967 108.0136 147.2260 0003547 291.0871 68.9895 14.37655510739497
GPS-0003
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2 11054 63.4979 301.8779 0069020 122.8728 237.8550 2.00575949101433
Nimbus 7
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2 11080 99.1388 110.7968 0009485 158.7714 201.3836 13.83679338695555
GPS-0004
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2 11141 64.2309 65.7250 0049550 23.4672 336.8112 1.92894407 99990
GPS-0005
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2 11690 64.5936 67.6880 0134925 200.5070 159.0237 2.00549992105996
GPS-0006
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2 11783 63.0597 301.0185 0198167 29.0467 332.1247 2.03456594 90087
GOES 5
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2 12472 5.3624 65.9810 0003652 350.5028 9.6484 1.00291990 40114
Cosmos 1383
1 13301U 82 66 A 92224.55002860 .00000031 00000-0 29569-4 0 9387
2 13301 82.9313 84.3879 0027388 151.3705 208.8965 13.68015516505188
LandSat 4
1 13367U 82 72 A 92226.09703809 .00000427 00000-0 99999-4 0 4106
2 13367 98.2850 282.0316 0006784 174.9347 185.1919 14.57085544536041
IRAS
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2 13777 98.9936 57.4124 0012206 21.8705 338.2977 13.99130179156822
Cosmos 1447
1 13916U 83 21 A 92224.21136354 .00000021 00000-0 15929-4 0 150
2 13916 82.9462 150.8856 0038807 108.0659 252.4730 13.74257395470629
TDRS 1
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2 13969 6.3024 58.4848 0003098 75.9795 283.9887 1.00272640 7288
GOES 6
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2 14050 4.1306 68.6756 0001511 246.8230 113.4123 1.00305045 6017
OSCAR 10
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2 14129 26.7547 69.1177 6030997 8.3124 358.7891 2.05882433 40968
GPS-0008
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2 14189 63.8084 63.1610 0136525 231.4366 127.4011 2.00563083 66575
LandSat 5
1 14780U 84 21 A 92226.07229101 .00000297 00000-0 70760-4 0 2117
2 14780 98.1840 285.4337 0002667 152.0878 208.0468 14.57131101449454
UoSat 2
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2 14781 97.8472 257.7441 0010784 271.5890 88.4080 14.68629105451204
GPS-0009
1 15039U 84 59 A 92226.62982646 -.00000004 00000-0 99999-4 0 6315
2 15039 63.5674 62.1557 0040952 218.1410 141.6396 2.00568804 59854
Cosmos 1574
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2 15055 82.9557 202.6411 0026414 299.0636 60.7874 13.73558942407990
GPS-0010
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2 15271 62.7700 300.3243 0124103 339.4139 20.1675 2.00562275 56953
Cosmos 1602
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NOAA 9
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GPS-0011
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2 16129 64.3249 63.7938 0128101 143.6658 217.2856 2.00565079 50179
Mir
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2 16609 51.6256 320.2875 0003815 51.5240 308.6009 15.53409858371207
SPOT 1
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2 16613 98.7142 298.6027 0002046 70.6064 289.5376 14.20038347 21026
Cosmos 1766
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2 16881 82.5152 45.0702 0018486 285.6683 74.2493 14.82437370325820
EGP
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NOAA 10
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MOS-1
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GOES 7
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2 17561 0.0099 266.2178 0002100 241.1542 212.6265 1.00272775 3282
Kvant-1
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DMSP B5D2-3
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RS-10/11
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Meteor 2-16
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Meteor 2-17
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2 18820 82.5417 83.1936 0015851 271.2659 88.6688 13.84647146229348
DMSP B5D2-4
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Glonass 34
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2 19163 64.9393 133.0334 0006906 190.6221 169.3799 2.13102128 32262
Glonass 36
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2 19165 64.9182 133.0748 0004530 334.6529 25.3399 2.13102586 32840
METEOSAT 3
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2 19215 0.1931 64.6264 0002156 132.6328 162.6811 1.00252093 3113
AO-13
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2 19216 57.1764 7.9121 7294454 293.4538 8.8286 2.09722255 398
OKEAN 1
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2 19274 82.5156 146.7799 0022548 67.5529 292.8113 14.81348146221124
Meteor 3-2
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2 19336 82.5422 79.3103 0017251 140.0521 220.1877 13.16948982194786
Glonass 39
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2 19503 65.6623 12.6536 0008253 181.3374 178.6979 2.13104036 30051
NOAA 11
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2 19531 99.0866 191.2732 0010827 218.9785 141.0574 14.12726620200276
TDRS 2
1 19548U 88 91 B 92223.28590881 -.00000257 00000-0 99999-4 0 4531
2 19548 0.0171 114.7513 0002084 269.2483 335.9708 1.00271089 1619
Glonass 40
1 19749U 89 1 A 92225.68251965 .00000018 00000-0 00000+0 0 7154
2 19749 64.8734 132.5890 0006396 270.8960 89.0694 2.13101858 27945
Glonass 41
1 19750U 89 1 B 92224.33213640 .00000018 00000-0 00000+0 0 7672
2 19750 64.8962 132.6677 0007068 254.7771 105.1772 2.13101889 27910
GPS BII-01
1 19802U 89 13 A 92226.14753199 .00000016 00000-0 99999-4 0 4509
2 19802 55.0467 166.3474 0041381 172.7861 187.2444 2.00560622 25559
Akebono
1 19822U 89 16 A 92226.90167861 .00018052 00000-0 11669-2 0 5790
2 19822 75.0821 194.2619 3930553 54.6155 336.1772 7.56069617 57641
Meteor 2-18
1 19851U 89 18 A 92226.75214733 .00000050 00000-0 39426-4 0 6948
2 19851 82.5207 320.0025 0014239 318.8401 41.1693 13.84294408174656
MOP-1
1 19876U 89 20 B 92223.11649213 .00000016 00000-0 00000+0 0 3984
2 19876 0.2355 2.5298 0002639 126.7437 230.7116 1.00276779 317
TDRS 3
1 19883U 89 21 B 92221.23323717 -.00000239 00000-0 99999-4 0 4655
2 19883 0.0232 339.2246 0001628 320.9847 59.7695 1.00269653 82729
GPS BII-02
1 20061U 89 44 A 92226.48398376 -.00000033 00000-0 99999-4 0 4556
2 20061 54.8872 343.8391 0109792 194.7542 164.9389 2.00561894 23309
Nadezhda 1
1 20103U 89 50 A 92226.99911234 .00000046 00000-0 41757-4 0 5924
2 20103 82.9583 63.4557 0038588 3.9111 356.2338 13.73793176156010
GPS BII-03
1 20185U 89 64 A 92226.32198841 .00000016 00000-0 99999-4 0 4014
2 20185 54.8802 167.0704 0012047 198.6931 161.2345 2.00557084 21872
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Dr TS Kelso Assistant Professor of Space Operations
tkelso@afit.af.mil Air Force Institute of Technology
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Date: 14 Aug 92 20:55:56 GMT
From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <higgins@fnalb.fnal.gov>
Subject: Want to scan Moon Map?(Re: Russian Cosmonaut Pics)
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <14AUG199211294086@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, afwendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (WENDY WARTNICK) writes:
> I have something that some people may be interested in:
[description of 41 cosmonaut cards deleted]
> Any suggestions?
Yeah. Get 'em made into GIFs and get Peter Yee to stick 'em on the
Ames archive. (Unless they are copyrighted, of course.) I know you
can't scan them, but there must be somebody in Cleveland who can.
Also, hang onto them and keep them in really good condition. In a
nation gone insane for baseball cards, who knows what cosmonaut cards
may be worth before the bubble bursts?
In a similar vein: I have two Russian maps of the Moon ("/\YHA
KAPTA"), one sheet 1:10,000,000 and nine sheets of 1:5,000,000. I
would be willing to have them scanned in if there is anybody near
Chicago interested in taking on the project. We would have to clear
permission with the publishers, but that might not be too much
trouble.
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Date: 15 Aug 92 00:57:33 GMT
From: John Roberts <roberts@CMR.NCSL.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Weak interactions...
Newsgroups: sci.space
-From: magnus@thep.lu.se (Magnus Olsson)
-Newsgroups: sci.space
-Subject: Re: Weak interactions, biology and the SSC
-Date: 13 Aug 92 12:18:31 GMT
-Organization: Theoretical Physics, Lund University, Sweden
-In article <1992Aug13.103524.4357@pollux.lu.se> I write:
->Since it has been mentioned several times in the ongoing SSC
->debate/flamewar in this newsgroup
-Sorry, but I managed to goof up and post it to the wrong newsgrup - it
-should of course have gone to sci.physics, not to sci.space. Sorry for
-wasting your bandwidth (and this accursed NNTP server won't let me
-cancel my own articles...)
Thanks for posting it anyway - it's relevant to SETI.
I wonder if the Viking biology tests had any "right-handed" food....
John Roberts
roberts@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov
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